What would an incontrovertible irrevocable OGL 2.0 look like?

[GMforPowergamers]

Who gets to decide which counts as either?

the big company that owns it gets final say sort of... because like the Spell jammer debacle they have to respond when others accuse.

I personally think the TTRPG world is WORSE off for having driven teh book of errotic fantasy out of the circles... in a game full of immature (let face it) violance some immature sex shouldn't be off limits.. but I didn't get the last say (except at my table where kiss of life and some other spells still live)

But at the end of teh day teh people who own it get to choose.

 

[Scribe]

Spell jammer debacle they have to respond when others accuse.

That was their own product...

 

[GMforPowergamers]

I think that giving Hasbro thinking they should have any sort of oversight or veto power is the reason the current brouhaha is happening. An open license is only open if it doesn't allow for someone to cancel someone else's ability to use it based on their own arbitrary interpretation of their work.

SO you think that if someone made a book like teh G word book from White wolf and put it out with "Compatible with D&D" they shouldn't care? When Twitter or what ever explodes saying it's racist WotC and hasbro should just be like "Lol not us this time"?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

That was their own product...

but again they get to say what they will and wont allow, and what outrage to listen to and what ones not to... it's still them that should have the final say.

 

[Alzrius]

SO you think that if someone made a book like teh G word book from White wolf and put it out with "Compatible with D&D" they shouldn't care? When Twitter or what ever explodes saying it's racist WotC and hasbro should just be like "Lol not us this time"?

No, if think that if someone did that, WotC/Hasbro shouldn't have the ability to do anything about it.

 

[Scribe]

but again they get to say what they will and wont allow, and what outrage to listen to and what ones not to... it's still them that should have the final say.

Why? They are just a greedy exploitive corporation paying lip service to any social good out of a profit motive.

Why should I have morality dictated by them?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Why? They are just a greedy exploitive corporation paying lip service to any social good out of a profit motive.

Why should I have morality dictated by them?

because it is there IP

 

[Alzrius]

because it is there IP

If they want to maintain control over how their IP is used and/or who uses it, then they shouldn't put it into an open license. They can't have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Scribe]

because it is there IP

If they are in the business of monetization of morality, they can keep their license then.

I'm not sure how "Spell Level" or "Drow" or "Beholder" has any relevance to any given skewed interpretation of what is socially acceptable at any given moment, but I do know that I'm certainly not going to look to Hasbro-WotC, to give me a green light in that regard.

 

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SO you think that if someone made a book like teh G word book from White wolf and put it out with "Compatible with D&D" they shouldn't care?

The OGL 1.0a already explicitly prohibits them from saying "Compatible with D&D".