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Which is the better fantasy rpg and why: D&D 5e or Pathfinder 2e?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7877218" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I have explained, at some length, that it is not. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> There is absolutely NO tradition of "sad low-risk stuff" in the entire history of D&D from the 1970s to the end of 4E. It is a totally brand-new 5E thing and it's not even down to Jeremy Crawford because he's been whacked in the face with it before. They set this "tradition" at the start of 5E - that's the "hidebound" bit, because they decided on this, and they've stuck to it come hell or high water, and it's resulted in a lot of stuff that hasn't been very cool. Hasn't been as cool as the actual PHB, even. If I were new, I would have see all the UAs with cool stuff in them (even my most casual players seem to somehow know about UA!), and how they all got deleted or not implemented or nerfed into the ground, and I would be disappointed.</p><p></p><p>Traditional and safe are absolutely not the same thing.</p><p></p><p>Lots of safe stuff can be non-traditional (example: Rick & Morty).</p><p></p><p>Lots of traditional stuff can be totally unsafe by 5E design standards (example: Psionicist as a class - even though they did a great job with Mystic).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7877218, member: 18"] I have explained, at some length, that it is not. :) There is absolutely NO tradition of "sad low-risk stuff" in the entire history of D&D from the 1970s to the end of 4E. It is a totally brand-new 5E thing and it's not even down to Jeremy Crawford because he's been whacked in the face with it before. They set this "tradition" at the start of 5E - that's the "hidebound" bit, because they decided on this, and they've stuck to it come hell or high water, and it's resulted in a lot of stuff that hasn't been very cool. Hasn't been as cool as the actual PHB, even. If I were new, I would have see all the UAs with cool stuff in them (even my most casual players seem to somehow know about UA!), and how they all got deleted or not implemented or nerfed into the ground, and I would be disappointed. Traditional and safe are absolutely not the same thing. Lots of safe stuff can be non-traditional (example: Rick & Morty). Lots of traditional stuff can be totally unsafe by 5E design standards (example: Psionicist as a class - even though they did a great job with Mystic). [/QUOTE]
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