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D&D 3E/3.5 Waves of Fatigue and Exhaustion, new spells for 3.5E
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jodyjohnson
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Cones with set range. Have we seen a 3.5 cone spell with the old 25+5/2 level ranges yet?
30 = 2nd-3rd level cone
60 = 14th-15th level cone
Cones with set range. Have we seen a 3.5 cone spell with the old 25+5/2 level ranges yet?
30 = 2nd-3rd level cone
60 = 14th-15th level cone
There's nothing wrong with a cone with a set range. Range is different to area of effect.
Personally, I like these spells. A lot. Usually no save implies an obnoxious spell (eg blasphemy, power word X) but being fatigued or exhausted isn't a particularly deadly condition. It's much better than the fatigue spell in OA, which affects only one target, requires a touch, and grants a save. As if it wasn't wimpy enough, it's also a 4th level spell.
Personally, I like these spells. A lot. Usually no save implies an obnoxious spell (eg blasphemy, power word X) but being fatigued or exhausted isn't a particularly deadly condition. It's much better than the fatigue spell in OA, which affects only one target, requires a touch, and grants a save. As if it wasn't wimpy enough, it's also a 4th level spell.
Murrdox
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I like them, especially because as a spell school, Necromancy needs more toys.
I was thinking recently of creating a Necromancy spell that would amputate one of the target's limbs... an arm or a leg... no heads. I thought this would be a pretty nifty idea. It would do some minor damage on a save, and if the save was failed, a bit more damage, and amputate a limb of the caster's choice. If an arm, the effects are somewhat obvious. A leg would cripple the character and such. While the damage could be healed with Cure, one would have to Regenerate the limb. I was thinking this would probably be at least a level 5 spell... especially if it was a ray. Thoughts? Maybe I'll draw it up and post it later.
I was thinking recently of creating a Necromancy spell that would amputate one of the target's limbs... an arm or a leg... no heads. I thought this would be a pretty nifty idea. It would do some minor damage on a save, and if the save was failed, a bit more damage, and amputate a limb of the caster's choice. If an arm, the effects are somewhat obvious. A leg would cripple the character and such. While the damage could be healed with Cure, one would have to Regenerate the limb. I was thinking this would probably be at least a level 5 spell... especially if it was a ray. Thoughts? Maybe I'll draw it up and post it later.
Grog said:
They're only marginally useful if you habitually send the PCs up against single powerful monsters. This tends not to work well at higher levels anyway, due to the sheer magnitude of damage that high-level PCs can dish out. If you have a high-level group fighting a large mob of slightly-lower-level monsters, then these spells could be very useful.
hong said:
The problem is that spells with long-term detrimental effects are fundamentally more harmful when used on PCs than they are when used on NPCs.
If the party uses Cone of Exhaustion on some monsters, all they're really doing is giving them a penalty for the duration of the combat (since the PCs will most likely kill the monsters). If a necromancer casts the spell on the PCs in their first combat of the day, even if they kill the necromancer, they're basically screwed for the rest of the day.
It's like casting Mord.'s Disjunction on items - in most cases, not a very useful tactic for PCs to use on enemies, but something that NPCs can use against PCs to devastating effect.
