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Horses, phantom steeds or flying carpets... with wizards casting successions of floating disks for fast mass transportation
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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9039778" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>You aren't the first person to think of this idea. </p><p></p><p>You could certainly create multiple disks, it's a ritual and they last for an hour. A ritual takes 10 minutes to cast, so in theory you could have up to 6 disks floating around you at a time. But then you hit 2 main issues</p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">What happens when you move more than 20 feet away? They follow you so that they remain 20 feet away, does that mean they all try to snap to the same location? Do they just kind of cluster together or do they just ram into each other knocking the cargo off?</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">What happens when the disk expires? Do you need to reload all 500 pounds of "stuff" onto a new disk? </li> </ol><p>So let's say your DM rules that #1 isn't a problem. They conga line up or just kind of bunch together in an arc behind you. Might cause some difficulties going down the road if it's the latter because you're taking up a path 18 or so feet wide. The spell isn't particularly clear how the disk follows you and avoids obstacles, other than that it can't go over elevation changes easily.</p><p></p><p>But #2? I think that's tougher. You'd have to stop every time the spell expires. Of course you <em>could</em> rule that a new disk appears under an existing one, but that doesn't really fit with the "unoccupied space of your choice that you can see within range" text. The space for the new disk is already occupied by the old disk. Unless you change the rule that you just "refresh" the disk, I don't see a way around this issue.</p><p></p><p>But assume you hand-wave or house rule the issues. Then there are issues with trying to cast a ritual while on a galloping horse. The rules are pretty silent on what the requirements are for rituals, but generally I require a relatively safe and stable environment, I wouldn't allow a ritual cast on the back of a galloping horse. Don't even get me started on trying to convey a an animal on a plank suspended between disks on a plank, although I'm not certain I understand what you're trying to do there.</p><p></p><p>Phantom steed or flying carpet (that doesn't go more than 10 feet above the ground) is more practical for our caster's conveyance but I still don't see a way around the 2 issues above. </p><p></p><p>If you think it's a cool idea/visual, go for it. I'm just explaining why I would (and did in the past) veto the concept.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9039778, member: 6801845"] You aren't the first person to think of this idea. You could certainly create multiple disks, it's a ritual and they last for an hour. A ritual takes 10 minutes to cast, so in theory you could have up to 6 disks floating around you at a time. But then you hit 2 main issues [LIST=1] [*]What happens when you move more than 20 feet away? They follow you so that they remain 20 feet away, does that mean they all try to snap to the same location? Do they just kind of cluster together or do they just ram into each other knocking the cargo off? [*]What happens when the disk expires? Do you need to reload all 500 pounds of "stuff" onto a new disk? [/LIST] So let's say your DM rules that #1 isn't a problem. They conga line up or just kind of bunch together in an arc behind you. Might cause some difficulties going down the road if it's the latter because you're taking up a path 18 or so feet wide. The spell isn't particularly clear how the disk follows you and avoids obstacles, other than that it can't go over elevation changes easily. But #2? I think that's tougher. You'd have to stop every time the spell expires. Of course you [I]could[/I] rule that a new disk appears under an existing one, but that doesn't really fit with the "unoccupied space of your choice that you can see within range" text. The space for the new disk is already occupied by the old disk. Unless you change the rule that you just "refresh" the disk, I don't see a way around this issue. But assume you hand-wave or house rule the issues. Then there are issues with trying to cast a ritual while on a galloping horse. The rules are pretty silent on what the requirements are for rituals, but generally I require a relatively safe and stable environment, I wouldn't allow a ritual cast on the back of a galloping horse. Don't even get me started on trying to convey a an animal on a plank suspended between disks on a plank, although I'm not certain I understand what you're trying to do there. Phantom steed or flying carpet (that doesn't go more than 10 feet above the ground) is more practical for our caster's conveyance but I still don't see a way around the 2 issues above. If you think it's a cool idea/visual, go for it. I'm just explaining why I would (and did in the past) veto the concept. [/QUOTE]
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