D&D 3E/3.5 [3.5] Feinting in Combat

[Hardhead]

Is feinting in combat still Bluff vs. Sense Motive in 3.5? If so, does it specifically say it makes you flat-footed?

 

[Destil]

Quick language check: You're never 'flat-footed' after you act in combat. What you mean is "Do you still loose your Dex bonus to AC?" Unless this has been changed in the revison.

Question still stands, though.

 

[James McMurray]

ACtually, if I'm not mistaken, the Quicker than the Eye Feat specifically mentions catching your opponent flat-footed with a bluff check. I believe there are other places where this is written as well. Its a very important distinction though, given that it would allow Uncanny Dodgers to ignore being bluffed.

 

[Madfox]

Opponents with the uncanny dodge can be effected by a feint. It was one of the things I checked when I borrowed the revised edition PHB. The mechanics are slightly changed though, since it is NOT a flat sense motive check. The base attack roll of the opponent is added to the sense motive roll.

 

[drnuncheon]

Opponents with the uncanny dodge can be effected by a feint. It was one of the things I checked when I borrowed the revised edition PHB. The mechanics are slightly changed though, since it is NOT a flat sense motive check. The base attack roll of the opponent is added to the sense motive roll.

Whoah!

OK, that's interesting. Makes fighters a lot tougher to feint, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

But...it also makes classes with Sense Motive nearly impossible to feint (at least at higher levels).

J

 

[Murrdox]

A very GOOD thing, because a Rogue can out-bluff nearly everything there is. There's almost no chance of failure for a rogue with a maxed bluff skill to fail against the sense motive or spot checks of most other NPCs and monsters.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Don't forget that the feat Improved Feint (prerequsite: Combat Expertise) makes feinting a move action.

 

[Tellerve]

What are the prerequisties for Improved Feint, or are there any, besides Combat Expertise?

Tellerve