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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9160045" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>Some people will never believe there isn't an issue no matter how much math, how much proof you have. I haven't ever seen an issue either DMing or playing; different roles in the game do not make one class "better" than the other. I've seen the same thing in video games like Solasta where you can play modules that shows you (up to level 13 anyway) who wins the DPR contest, 99% of the time it's the fighter.</p><p></p><p>In addition to not having a 5MWD I would recommend setting up situations where enemies come from multiple directions, showing up in waves. Always showing up in fireball formation is one of the issues. Play monsters intelligently. Have the lurkers lurk and force the PCs to rely on readied actions because if a readied spell never goes off it is wasted. Focus fire on the wizard and take them out quickly. Don't get overly concerned if every once in a while the wizard gets to go nova, let them have fun. Pay attention to the negatives of a spell; a fireball sets unattended items on fire, a person that was charmed remembers they were charmed.</p><p></p><p>I could go on, but this will just devolve back into the same old back and forth. There is nothing that will "prove" anything to some people nor, it seems, will they listen to suggestions or advice from people who so not have the problem</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9160045, member: 6801845"] Some people will never believe there isn't an issue no matter how much math, how much proof you have. I haven't ever seen an issue either DMing or playing; different roles in the game do not make one class "better" than the other. I've seen the same thing in video games like Solasta where you can play modules that shows you (up to level 13 anyway) who wins the DPR contest, 99% of the time it's the fighter. In addition to not having a 5MWD I would recommend setting up situations where enemies come from multiple directions, showing up in waves. Always showing up in fireball formation is one of the issues. Play monsters intelligently. Have the lurkers lurk and force the PCs to rely on readied actions because if a readied spell never goes off it is wasted. Focus fire on the wizard and take them out quickly. Don't get overly concerned if every once in a while the wizard gets to go nova, let them have fun. Pay attention to the negatives of a spell; a fireball sets unattended items on fire, a person that was charmed remembers they were charmed. I could go on, but this will just devolve back into the same old back and forth. There is nothing that will "prove" anything to some people nor, it seems, will they listen to suggestions or advice from people who so not have the problem [/QUOTE]
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