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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3237140" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Low-level spells are near-useless to dragons in combat. The first several caster levels given up don't really hurt a dragon much (they might miss out on a bit of AC, Str, Dex, Con, or something, but chances are, the dragon will have a magic item that gives the same, or better, in their horde and likely just don the item when expecting a battle).</p><p></p><p>The middle caster levels lost do cause a bit of weakness, and the later caster levels lost have a somewhat significant impact. I'd increase the dragon's CR by 1 or 2 points for those dragons that give up only 1-7 caster levels, not adjust the CR at all for those who give up 8-13 caster levels, and decrease the CR by 1 or 2 points for those who give up 14-20 caster levels. I'm not entirely sure though, yet.</p><p></p><p>Also, to note: extra Rages per day don't really help a dragon much (unless he/she is an adventurer themselves!). Similarly, in the opposite vein......multiple Smite Goods per day would be awfully powerful for an evil dragon, against adventurers, and even just 1 SG would likely be enough to let the dragon kill off a party's wizard or rogue in one hit (after, say, charging, or taking a move action in flight to get around the party's fighter and cleric).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3237140, member: 13966"] Low-level spells are near-useless to dragons in combat. The first several caster levels given up don't really hurt a dragon much (they might miss out on a bit of AC, Str, Dex, Con, or something, but chances are, the dragon will have a magic item that gives the same, or better, in their horde and likely just don the item when expecting a battle). The middle caster levels lost do cause a bit of weakness, and the later caster levels lost have a somewhat significant impact. I'd increase the dragon's CR by 1 or 2 points for those dragons that give up only 1-7 caster levels, not adjust the CR at all for those who give up 8-13 caster levels, and decrease the CR by 1 or 2 points for those who give up 14-20 caster levels. I'm not entirely sure though, yet. Also, to note: extra Rages per day don't really help a dragon much (unless he/she is an adventurer themselves!). Similarly, in the opposite vein......multiple Smite Goods per day would be awfully powerful for an evil dragon, against adventurers, and even just 1 SG would likely be enough to let the dragon kill off a party's wizard or rogue in one hit (after, say, charging, or taking a move action in flight to get around the party's fighter and cleric). [/QUOTE]
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