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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9340026" data-attributes="member: 7037866"><p>Not really, although at this point I feel we are probably talking past each other LOL! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I am saying they are <em>always</em> completely ordinary humans. Nothing they learn to do changes that. They can do supernatural things, sure, but they are not supernatural themselves.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There is never an exception, in that sense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, that isn't my concern at all because whether commonfolk or not, humans are <em>never</em> supernatural. At best, the fact they are PCs, NPCs, or have creature stat blocks, any of which might grant them abilites to do supernatural things, still doesn't make their race "supernatural" for me.</p><p></p><p>There are people IRL who can do things I <em>could never do</em>. I just don't have the body type, or whatever, so no matter how much I train, etc. I could never match them. I will never be as fast as Usain Bolt, for example.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, in the fantasy worlds of D&D, they are sitll normal humans, but there is magic and the fantasy world, which allows them (along with the whole class, feats, etc. thing) to do the supernatural things they can do. Which is why I have no issue (especially at tier 3+) with a fighter or rogue leaping 50-60 feet. It is "plausible" to me in a fantasy game and I am happy to see it, but that still wouldn't make that human fighter or rogue supernatural, just able to do "fantastic" (as in fantasy) things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9340026, member: 7037866"] Not really, although at this point I feel we are probably talking past each other LOL! :) I am saying they are [I]always[/I] completely ordinary humans. Nothing they learn to do changes that. They can do supernatural things, sure, but they are not supernatural themselves. There is never an exception, in that sense. No, that isn't my concern at all because whether commonfolk or not, humans are [I]never[/I] supernatural. At best, the fact they are PCs, NPCs, or have creature stat blocks, any of which might grant them abilites to do supernatural things, still doesn't make their race "supernatural" for me. There are people IRL who can do things I [I]could never do[/I]. I just don't have the body type, or whatever, so no matter how much I train, etc. I could never match them. I will never be as fast as Usain Bolt, for example. Anyway, in the fantasy worlds of D&D, they are sitll normal humans, but there is magic and the fantasy world, which allows them (along with the whole class, feats, etc. thing) to do the supernatural things they can do. Which is why I have no issue (especially at tier 3+) with a fighter or rogue leaping 50-60 feet. It is "plausible" to me in a fantasy game and I am happy to see it, but that still wouldn't make that human fighter or rogue supernatural, just able to do "fantastic" (as in fantasy) things. [/QUOTE]
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