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<blockquote data-quote="LiquidBlue" data-source="post: 3114333" data-attributes="member: 40911"><p>Thank you Bront for the review of the Quoar proposal. I especially appreciate your anaylsis of the weakness of the proposal, and I have found your advice to be useful.</p><p></p><p>In fact your post is so useful that I will use it as a guide as I try to remake Quoar.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I really did not think how Quoar would fit in with the rest of the gods. It is something that I will consider, and I will present my thoughts further below.</p><p></p><p>I really did not create Quoar as a War god. That may not seem to make sense on the surface because I included <strong>just war</strong> as one of his portfolios, and <strong>War</strong> as one of his domains.</p><p></p><p>I still do not intend Quoar to be a god of war, and I hope that further thoughts will refine him. However, I must point out that there are lawful gods of war, evil gods of war, chaotic gods of war, and good gods of war, but not a truly neutral god of war. (Not that I mean to argue that there must be a god of war for each of the nine alignments, or even that Quoar fills that need.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I have to admit that I rejected NE and NG clerics without a very thoughtful reason. Allow me to try one now.</p><p></p><p>I am trying to strongly relate Quoar with desert qualities. The desert is merciless upon all creatures alike without favor or prejudice. The desert's strength is not of a good or evil source, it is simply a fact, and individuals cannot act with the desert's strength guided by consideration of good or evil.</p><p></p><p>That is not to say that followers of Quoar cannot be of NG or NE, just that his clerics must be one of LN, TN, or CN.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am glad that you brought up Halor, I did not completely research the make-up of the enworld Pantheon before I proposed Quoar.</p><p></p><p>Halor is secure as the Chaotic counterpart to Gundar. In fact I think a good place for Quoar, is not in actual struggle with Gundar or Halor, but rather a philosophical difference. In that he opposed the idea of the creation. Quoar was more interested the power and growth gained from struggle and accomadation with forces unconquerable and uncomprehensible.</p><p></p><p>He did not want the creation because it replaced the uncoquerable and uncomprehensible with the controled and known.</p><p></p><p>Gundar and Halor grew in power as they formed the enworld according to their own designs. Quoar refused to participate in the Creation or the struggle for its direction. However to his delight, admist the struggle between Gundar and Halor, areas appeared which neither intended and over which neither had power. Where the earth and air mixed and swirled, sometimes covering and hiding entire features, sometimes fleeing to reveal long lost secrets.</p><p></p><p>Quoar rejoiced to find these small frontiers, and seeking not to control them, simply watchs to see that none could be claimed.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I included the community domain as one of his portfolios is self reliance(personal and familial), what I mean is that Quoar's philosophy involves gaining greater power over one's self through interaction with one's environment. As explemlefied through his connection with the desert, one eventually learns that self dominion and self sufficientcy is ultimately limited if one does not maintain connections and interreliance with others. He does not support the inpersonal groups of geography and commerce, but the personal relationships that cause people to be greater than themselves.</p><p></p><p>I think perhaps I need to add to his profile so that this domain more closely fits. Perhaps <strong>Earned Trust</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I like these groups as worshipers, so perhaps I need to adjust his profile again.</p><p></p><p>Both of these groups have more to do with the desert connection, than with the previously stated profiles. I included those that wish to hide their past, as it seems like fleeing to the desert is a standard means to do so. Quoar accepts such people as they accept facts of their pasts yet, choose to be guided by the present. In terms of portfolios, and sticking to the desert theme; one of Quoar's portfolios is: <strong>The Demands of the Present</strong> . Quoar is concerned for what must be done now, and what can be learned now.</p><p></p><p>Upon reflection, <em>those that seek justice</em>, does not really fit with the descriptions I have given, and nearly directly conflicts with the new portfolio I have just described.</p><p></p><p>Now to expand upon <strong>The Demands of the Present</strong>. The Present cannot be dealt with unless it is acknowledged. Thus Quoar is strongly aligned with truth. And as a Desert will ultimately disgourge its hidden secrets, no lie can remain forever, eventually the facade will be worn away.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you for your excellent suggestions. I know need to make updates to the Proposal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LiquidBlue, post: 3114333, member: 40911"] Thank you Bront for the review of the Quoar proposal. I especially appreciate your anaylsis of the weakness of the proposal, and I have found your advice to be useful. In fact your post is so useful that I will use it as a guide as I try to remake Quoar. I guess I really did not think how Quoar would fit in with the rest of the gods. It is something that I will consider, and I will present my thoughts further below. I really did not create Quoar as a War god. That may not seem to make sense on the surface because I included [B]just war[/B] as one of his portfolios, and [B]War[/B] as one of his domains. I still do not intend Quoar to be a god of war, and I hope that further thoughts will refine him. However, I must point out that there are lawful gods of war, evil gods of war, chaotic gods of war, and good gods of war, but not a truly neutral god of war. (Not that I mean to argue that there must be a god of war for each of the nine alignments, or even that Quoar fills that need.) I have to admit that I rejected NE and NG clerics without a very thoughtful reason. Allow me to try one now. I am trying to strongly relate Quoar with desert qualities. The desert is merciless upon all creatures alike without favor or prejudice. The desert's strength is not of a good or evil source, it is simply a fact, and individuals cannot act with the desert's strength guided by consideration of good or evil. That is not to say that followers of Quoar cannot be of NG or NE, just that his clerics must be one of LN, TN, or CN. I am glad that you brought up Halor, I did not completely research the make-up of the enworld Pantheon before I proposed Quoar. Halor is secure as the Chaotic counterpart to Gundar. In fact I think a good place for Quoar, is not in actual struggle with Gundar or Halor, but rather a philosophical difference. In that he opposed the idea of the creation. Quoar was more interested the power and growth gained from struggle and accomadation with forces unconquerable and uncomprehensible. He did not want the creation because it replaced the uncoquerable and uncomprehensible with the controled and known. Gundar and Halor grew in power as they formed the enworld according to their own designs. Quoar refused to participate in the Creation or the struggle for its direction. However to his delight, admist the struggle between Gundar and Halor, areas appeared which neither intended and over which neither had power. Where the earth and air mixed and swirled, sometimes covering and hiding entire features, sometimes fleeing to reveal long lost secrets. Quoar rejoiced to find these small frontiers, and seeking not to control them, simply watchs to see that none could be claimed. I included the community domain as one of his portfolios is self reliance(personal and familial), what I mean is that Quoar's philosophy involves gaining greater power over one's self through interaction with one's environment. As explemlefied through his connection with the desert, one eventually learns that self dominion and self sufficientcy is ultimately limited if one does not maintain connections and interreliance with others. He does not support the inpersonal groups of geography and commerce, but the personal relationships that cause people to be greater than themselves. I think perhaps I need to add to his profile so that this domain more closely fits. Perhaps [B]Earned Trust[/B] I like these groups as worshipers, so perhaps I need to adjust his profile again. Both of these groups have more to do with the desert connection, than with the previously stated profiles. I included those that wish to hide their past, as it seems like fleeing to the desert is a standard means to do so. Quoar accepts such people as they accept facts of their pasts yet, choose to be guided by the present. In terms of portfolios, and sticking to the desert theme; one of Quoar's portfolios is: [B]The Demands of the Present[/B] . Quoar is concerned for what must be done now, and what can be learned now. Upon reflection, [I]those that seek justice[/I], does not really fit with the descriptions I have given, and nearly directly conflicts with the new portfolio I have just described. Now to expand upon [B]The Demands of the Present[/B]. The Present cannot be dealt with unless it is acknowledged. Thus Quoar is strongly aligned with truth. And as a Desert will ultimately disgourge its hidden secrets, no lie can remain forever, eventually the facade will be worn away. Thank you for your excellent suggestions. I know need to make updates to the Proposal [/QUOTE]
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