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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 8897103" data-attributes="member: 7635"><p>So in light of Paizo's announcement of ORC and WotC backing down some on the OGL 1.1, lets engage in some "What If..."</p><p></p><p>WotC has blinked. The majority of the 3pp community got WotC to back down somewhat. Yet trust is lost, and WotC is still confident they can replace 1.0a with an updated license, even one that isn't as draconian. However, Pazio has partnered with others to create an alternative license that is system neutral and irrevocable. While WotC still feels 1.0a might be revokable (or at least, they may force new content under the new OGL) that might not be a problem as ORC can be used to pick up that slack. And I don't recall anything saying that you can't use OGL on one product and different license on another. Hence, what might potentially come about.</p><p></p><p>1.0a becomes a dead/legacy license. Old stuff that used it remains, but no new stuff comes from it.</p><p>OGL 1.x becomes the way forward FOR D&D COMPATIBLE PRODUCTS. </p><p>ORC becomes the way forward for everything else. </p><p></p><p>So, Kobold Press can make a product for its Black Sails system using ORC, and it can make a different product (or perhaps a different version of the same product?) using OGL for 1D&D. All their eggs are no longer in one basket. Companies who still wish to get into 1D&D can use OGL, but they have additional options using ORC. If WotC ever goes Stupid Greedy again, they simply stop making 1D&D products and keep with their home system (or adopt a different system if they don't have an in-house). </p><p></p><p>Paizo can make a 1D&D compatible AP using OGL while still making Pathfinder APs using ORC. Kobold could make a campaign guide to Primeval Thule for Black Sails under ORC, but then release a "Player's Guide" for 1D&D using OGL as a sort of conversion guide. If WotC tries this again, KP and Paizo stop producing the D&D-compatible products but keep making their own stuff. Existential threat no longer is a concern, and WotC will have to accept they are a leader among peers, not a King among vassals.</p><p></p><p>Of course, the biggest problem is that you now have to design for two systems: D&D and your home system. And I don't forsee companies wanting to sink double R&D into both systems. But it's possible something like what Goodman does (DCC has its own line and 5EF for separate products that are 5e compatible released semi-regularly) might be an option. KP could do a D&D related product or two per year while sinking much of its work into BS products. Fluff is system neutral, so really it's only using D&D specific expressions of crunch that might require work. </p><p></p><p>It may come that companies don't have to choose between D&D support and survival. They might be able do both. Obviously, we won't know until both licenses are finalized. But we may yet be able to live in harmony between both licenses. Time will tell.</p><p></p><p>Unless I missed something utterly obvious, of course. IANAL and all that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 8897103, member: 7635"] So in light of Paizo's announcement of ORC and WotC backing down some on the OGL 1.1, lets engage in some "What If..." WotC has blinked. The majority of the 3pp community got WotC to back down somewhat. Yet trust is lost, and WotC is still confident they can replace 1.0a with an updated license, even one that isn't as draconian. However, Pazio has partnered with others to create an alternative license that is system neutral and irrevocable. While WotC still feels 1.0a might be revokable (or at least, they may force new content under the new OGL) that might not be a problem as ORC can be used to pick up that slack. And I don't recall anything saying that you can't use OGL on one product and different license on another. Hence, what might potentially come about. 1.0a becomes a dead/legacy license. Old stuff that used it remains, but no new stuff comes from it. OGL 1.x becomes the way forward FOR D&D COMPATIBLE PRODUCTS. ORC becomes the way forward for everything else. So, Kobold Press can make a product for its Black Sails system using ORC, and it can make a different product (or perhaps a different version of the same product?) using OGL for 1D&D. All their eggs are no longer in one basket. Companies who still wish to get into 1D&D can use OGL, but they have additional options using ORC. If WotC ever goes Stupid Greedy again, they simply stop making 1D&D products and keep with their home system (or adopt a different system if they don't have an in-house). Paizo can make a 1D&D compatible AP using OGL while still making Pathfinder APs using ORC. Kobold could make a campaign guide to Primeval Thule for Black Sails under ORC, but then release a "Player's Guide" for 1D&D using OGL as a sort of conversion guide. If WotC tries this again, KP and Paizo stop producing the D&D-compatible products but keep making their own stuff. Existential threat no longer is a concern, and WotC will have to accept they are a leader among peers, not a King among vassals. Of course, the biggest problem is that you now have to design for two systems: D&D and your home system. And I don't forsee companies wanting to sink double R&D into both systems. But it's possible something like what Goodman does (DCC has its own line and 5EF for separate products that are 5e compatible released semi-regularly) might be an option. KP could do a D&D related product or two per year while sinking much of its work into BS products. Fluff is system neutral, so really it's only using D&D specific expressions of crunch that might require work. It may come that companies don't have to choose between D&D support and survival. They might be able do both. Obviously, we won't know until both licenses are finalized. But we may yet be able to live in harmony between both licenses. Time will tell. Unless I missed something utterly obvious, of course. IANAL and all that. [/QUOTE]
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