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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8894407" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p>That's what I said.</p><p></p><p>They knew Paizo etc. wouldn't sign the OGL. The OGL 1.1 is just the stick and/or for "the little people", and I ain't talking hobbits and gnomes. But I don't buy that they didn't think it would bring Paizo "to heel".</p><p></p><p>I just don't see that as a primary goal. If it was, the OGL 1.1 was designed pretty badly. Also, what are you even talking about? If the OGL 1.0a is successful defended, no-one has given up any licences.</p><p></p><p>Companies get bad or questionable legal advice pretty frequently.</p><p></p><p>The fact that WotC put the OGL 1.1 out with those godawful comments, which are a combination of horrible "How do you do, fellow kids?" drivel and actual misrepresentations tells me they were getting bad legal advice, and or straight-up ignoring legal advice. I mean there is literally no way my law firm would have let that go out, we'd literally have stopped representing the client first (I base this on a couple of incidents I can't go into detail on but still). They sent this to a bunch of serious 40-60-somethings who run proper businesses, for god's sake! The commentary is infantile.</p><p></p><p>What does that tell you? I think what it tells you is that they have little respect for/regard of/understanding of the 3PP market. They don't even understand their competitors. They thought they could bring the big ones to heel, and force this on the smaller ones.</p><p></p><p>I'm not even sure they fully understood the collateral damage re: 1.0a being deleted, they just thought that people should only make stuff for 5E and only under their terms.</p><p></p><p>The other question for me is, is this in-house stuff, and WotC's in-house team just totally doesn't understand the D&D/RPG market-space, even though that's the entire reason you have in-house lawyers, or did they bring in some external firm of lawyers, totally failed to brief them accurately about the market-space and discouraged them from researching it (which would be easy to do, frankly, just say "We're the biggest by a huge margin, obviously everything we say is definitely 100% accurate!")?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8894407, member: 18"] Yes. That's what I said. They knew Paizo etc. wouldn't sign the OGL. The OGL 1.1 is just the stick and/or for "the little people", and I ain't talking hobbits and gnomes. But I don't buy that they didn't think it would bring Paizo "to heel". I just don't see that as a primary goal. If it was, the OGL 1.1 was designed pretty badly. Also, what are you even talking about? If the OGL 1.0a is successful defended, no-one has given up any licences. Companies get bad or questionable legal advice pretty frequently. The fact that WotC put the OGL 1.1 out with those godawful comments, which are a combination of horrible "How do you do, fellow kids?" drivel and actual misrepresentations tells me they were getting bad legal advice, and or straight-up ignoring legal advice. I mean there is literally no way my law firm would have let that go out, we'd literally have stopped representing the client first (I base this on a couple of incidents I can't go into detail on but still). They sent this to a bunch of serious 40-60-somethings who run proper businesses, for god's sake! The commentary is infantile. What does that tell you? I think what it tells you is that they have little respect for/regard of/understanding of the 3PP market. They don't even understand their competitors. They thought they could bring the big ones to heel, and force this on the smaller ones. I'm not even sure they fully understood the collateral damage re: 1.0a being deleted, they just thought that people should only make stuff for 5E and only under their terms. The other question for me is, is this in-house stuff, and WotC's in-house team just totally doesn't understand the D&D/RPG market-space, even though that's the entire reason you have in-house lawyers, or did they bring in some external firm of lawyers, totally failed to brief them accurately about the market-space and discouraged them from researching it (which would be easy to do, frankly, just say "We're the biggest by a huge margin, obviously everything we say is definitely 100% accurate!")? [/QUOTE]
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