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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 9322715" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>The deities of my homebrew, by decree of the king of the gods, are forbidden from directly interfering with Creation. This, of course, is a very serious decree, rife with loopholes. </p><p></p><p>No. Gods can not manifest on the Prime in their totality/"true godly selves." Period. They've done it. Past generations of divinities have done it. It leads to nothing but utter destruction. That would be the biggest "no way, any deity (other than the ultimate Evil), would dare" break this proclamation.</p><p></p><p>They can, however, take on lesser forms if they are so inclilned. Many, if not most, gods (including fortunately, the majoirty of the evil ones) find such a "lowering" of their status distasteful (the way many if not most dragons are loathe to assume lesser mortal or animal shape). It is also something that does not come easy or that they can maintain for a large amount of time. The god of trickery and music (patron of bards), is especially prone to be wandering around, soaking up tales and songs and seeking out talent, but if he were ever found out, he'd be summarily "yanked" back to the gods' celestial abode. And those who take a particular interest in a person or happening, might occasionally observe ("up close" rather than scrying from their home plane) as a bird or stray cat, as easily as a non-descript villager or child. But their revelation of their true nature would land them in a LOT of trouble. Bysdan (the divine bard, minstrel of the gods) just enjoys tempting his luck and testing his superiors' patience, so is prone to revealing more of himself - to a point - than most other entities would dare. Fortunately for Bysdan, Astar is a great lover of music and his talents.</p><p></p><p>No, gods are not supposed to directly influence mortal goings on (other than what their chosen champions can get done). However, if a deity with some agency over weather were to generate (or calm) a storn. Or a god of war/blood/battle were to place a thumb on the scales of chance for one side or the other in a great battle/war....that's really, more often than not, overlooked...seen as part of their "job" in their deific duties for their -personal- area(s) of influence.</p><p></p><p>They are allowed, obviously, to empower their clerics and various champions. </p><p></p><p>They are allowed to send emissaries/minions/messengers (various celestials/fiends, lesser divine beings/creatures like sphinx or lamassu, maybe even the spirits of past loved ones/friends, etc...). These direct representatives are generally tasked for a single purpose, very stringently kept to their particular task, and (again, generally) do not linger in the physical world, but complete their role and return to their home plane.</p><p></p><p>The gods can (and some do) deliver messages and visions, themselves (though many would leave this to underlings also), through the Dream Plane, to unconscious mortal minds. Since they are effectively interacting somewhere not the physical world/Prime plane, this is not a breach of Astar's decree. </p><p></p><p>Interacting with a mortal mind/spirit in the throes of death/dying, a spirit moving along the river of the dead prior to their "final judgement" and assignation of an afterlife by the goddess of death, again they're not in the physical world...so, communication and influence is also not, explicitly, against the rules. </p><p></p><p>So, while it is not at all a common occurance, there are really more ways for the deities to be or become involved in the world, beyond just trodding upon it. Most of them, honestly, just can't be bothered most of the time. The evil ones, unfortunately, are the ones most prone to try to interfere, directly and otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 9322715, member: 92511"] The deities of my homebrew, by decree of the king of the gods, are forbidden from directly interfering with Creation. This, of course, is a very serious decree, rife with loopholes. No. Gods can not manifest on the Prime in their totality/"true godly selves." Period. They've done it. Past generations of divinities have done it. It leads to nothing but utter destruction. That would be the biggest "no way, any deity (other than the ultimate Evil), would dare" break this proclamation. They can, however, take on lesser forms if they are so inclilned. Many, if not most, gods (including fortunately, the majoirty of the evil ones) find such a "lowering" of their status distasteful (the way many if not most dragons are loathe to assume lesser mortal or animal shape). It is also something that does not come easy or that they can maintain for a large amount of time. The god of trickery and music (patron of bards), is especially prone to be wandering around, soaking up tales and songs and seeking out talent, but if he were ever found out, he'd be summarily "yanked" back to the gods' celestial abode. And those who take a particular interest in a person or happening, might occasionally observe ("up close" rather than scrying from their home plane) as a bird or stray cat, as easily as a non-descript villager or child. But their revelation of their true nature would land them in a LOT of trouble. Bysdan (the divine bard, minstrel of the gods) just enjoys tempting his luck and testing his superiors' patience, so is prone to revealing more of himself - to a point - than most other entities would dare. Fortunately for Bysdan, Astar is a great lover of music and his talents. No, gods are not supposed to directly influence mortal goings on (other than what their chosen champions can get done). However, if a deity with some agency over weather were to generate (or calm) a storn. Or a god of war/blood/battle were to place a thumb on the scales of chance for one side or the other in a great battle/war....that's really, more often than not, overlooked...seen as part of their "job" in their deific duties for their -personal- area(s) of influence. They are allowed, obviously, to empower their clerics and various champions. They are allowed to send emissaries/minions/messengers (various celestials/fiends, lesser divine beings/creatures like sphinx or lamassu, maybe even the spirits of past loved ones/friends, etc...). These direct representatives are generally tasked for a single purpose, very stringently kept to their particular task, and (again, generally) do not linger in the physical world, but complete their role and return to their home plane. The gods can (and some do) deliver messages and visions, themselves (though many would leave this to underlings also), through the Dream Plane, to unconscious mortal minds. Since they are effectively interacting somewhere not the physical world/Prime plane, this is not a breach of Astar's decree. Interacting with a mortal mind/spirit in the throes of death/dying, a spirit moving along the river of the dead prior to their "final judgement" and assignation of an afterlife by the goddess of death, again they're not in the physical world...so, communication and influence is also not, explicitly, against the rules. So, while it is not at all a common occurance, there are really more ways for the deities to be or become involved in the world, beyond just trodding upon it. Most of them, honestly, just can't be bothered most of the time. The evil ones, unfortunately, are the ones most prone to try to interfere, directly and otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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