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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8399924" data-attributes="member: 7032025"><p>It's like any normal round, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. If the trigger happens before their turn, yes, if not, no.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And this means that preparation is pointless, which is exactly what we are trying to avoid.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then I don't have a readied action, do I ? But it did not happen that way because I did not want to be the one to start hostilities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If he'd been rational and wanted to prepare for a hostile action on our part, he might have done that, why not. But the thing is that we we did not want to start the hostilities, just be ready to react to specific circumstances.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And again, it depends on what the trigger is. My exemples are perfect examples of perceivable triggers.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If it's that way, without any preparation, yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, the DM needs to think about it because it's the logical thing to do for some NPCs as well in tense situations. The bodyguard prepares himself to cover his charge. The mage prepares a dimension door out of the melee. All this is normal, for PCs and NPCs alike.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Even if it was that way (which it is not, because for this to happen, you would have to have very bizarre readied actions), how is this worse than just stupidly rolling for it with no consideration of tactics? But if you prefer rolling, roll and enjoy the randomness.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Look, you don't like it, it's fine, don't use it. But being insulting is something else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8399924, member: 7032025"] It's like any normal round, sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. If the trigger happens before their turn, yes, if not, no. And this means that preparation is pointless, which is exactly what we are trying to avoid. Then I don't have a readied action, do I ? But it did not happen that way because I did not want to be the one to start hostilities. If he'd been rational and wanted to prepare for a hostile action on our part, he might have done that, why not. But the thing is that we we did not want to start the hostilities, just be ready to react to specific circumstances. And again, it depends on what the trigger is. My exemples are perfect examples of perceivable triggers. If it's that way, without any preparation, yes. Yes, the DM needs to think about it because it's the logical thing to do for some NPCs as well in tense situations. The bodyguard prepares himself to cover his charge. The mage prepares a dimension door out of the melee. All this is normal, for PCs and NPCs alike. Even if it was that way (which it is not, because for this to happen, you would have to have very bizarre readied actions), how is this worse than just stupidly rolling for it with no consideration of tactics? But if you prefer rolling, roll and enjoy the randomness. Look, you don't like it, it's fine, don't use it. But being insulting is something else. [/QUOTE]
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