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<blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 6964536" data-attributes="member: 83242"><p>The attack bonus is +10, you have that correct. However, this is how the affects the CR:</p><p></p><p>Offensive CR:</p><p>1) Calculate DPR: in this case DPR of 48 equates to a CR of 7; which has an expectyed attack bonus of +6</p><p>2) Determine expected attack bonus based on DPR CR (7); which in this case is +6</p><p>3) Calculate the effect of a different attack bonus on the Offensive CR. For every 2 difference in attack bonus adjust the CR by 1. So we take the giants actual attack bonus of 10 and subtract the expected bonus of 6 given a a result of 4, then divide this by 2, resulting in an adjustment of +2 to the CR</p><p>4) Adjust the DPR CR (7) with the attack bonus adjustment (+2), resulting in an offensive CR of: 7 + 2 = CR 9</p><p></p><p>In other words:</p><p>You look at the DPR column first ( CR 7), and then adjust that CR by the difference in the bonus (+10, actual, - +6, expected) divided by 2 (round down).</p><p></p><p>You do not subtract the attack bonus CRs from each other as you did, you subtract the actual bonus (DMG pg 274=275): </p><p>"Now look at the attack bonus suggested for the monster challenge rating. If your monster's <strong><u>attack bonus</u></strong> is at least two points higher or lower than that number <em>(referring to the attack bonus suggested)</em>, adjust the challenge rating suggested by its damage output up or down by 1 for every 2 points of difference."</p><p></p><p>*bold underline for emphasis and italics added by me</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps: FYI, I made the same mistake at first too, I even had a spreadsheet made that calculated CR they way you thought before I realized my mistake</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dave2008, post: 6964536, member: 83242"] The attack bonus is +10, you have that correct. However, this is how the affects the CR: Offensive CR: 1) Calculate DPR: in this case DPR of 48 equates to a CR of 7; which has an expectyed attack bonus of +6 2) Determine expected attack bonus based on DPR CR (7); which in this case is +6 3) Calculate the effect of a different attack bonus on the Offensive CR. For every 2 difference in attack bonus adjust the CR by 1. So we take the giants actual attack bonus of 10 and subtract the expected bonus of 6 given a a result of 4, then divide this by 2, resulting in an adjustment of +2 to the CR 4) Adjust the DPR CR (7) with the attack bonus adjustment (+2), resulting in an offensive CR of: 7 + 2 = CR 9 In other words: You look at the DPR column first ( CR 7), and then adjust that CR by the difference in the bonus (+10, actual, - +6, expected) divided by 2 (round down). You do not subtract the attack bonus CRs from each other as you did, you subtract the actual bonus (DMG pg 274=275): "Now look at the attack bonus suggested for the monster challenge rating. If your monster's [B][U]attack bonus[/U][/B] is at least two points higher or lower than that number [I](referring to the attack bonus suggested)[/I], adjust the challenge rating suggested by its damage output up or down by 1 for every 2 points of difference." *bold underline for emphasis and italics added by me I hope that helps: FYI, I made the same mistake at first too, I even had a spreadsheet made that calculated CR they way you thought before I realized my mistake [/QUOTE]
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