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<blockquote data-quote="Bront" data-source="post: 2324232" data-attributes="member: 19696"><p>My suggestion with Slice Through and Improved slice through</p><p>Get rid of Improved Slice Through, and Slice through to:</p><p></p><p>SLICE THROUGH [GENERAL]</p><p> You may strike your opponent when tumbling through them.</p><p> Prerequisites: Spring Attack, 5 Ranks Tumble, BAB +6</p><p> Benefit: As a move action you can make a normal melee attack against your opponent while tumbling through his square if you succeed your tumble check. The attack happens while in the opponent's square(s), so does not gain any benifits from flanking. You must tumble in a straight line, and be able to make it through to the other side of the opponent as if tumbling normaly (one-half speed). All other rules for tumbling through an opponent's square apply.</p><p> Normal: Tumble at one-half speed through an area occupied by an enemy (over, under, or around the opponent) as part of normal movement, provoking no attacks of opportunity while doing so. Failure means you stop before entering the enemy-occupied area and provoke an attack of opportunity from that enemy.</p><p></p><p>This gives the feat a better mechanical feal, and makes it fairly clear what is happening. Not sure how balanced it is, so figured I'd throw it out there. Otherwise, as the feat is currently written, I'd rather simply tumble through my opponent as a move action (which does not provoke an AoO), and attack him afterwards, even if it fails.</p><p></p><p>I think Stabing Through honestly sounds like Grand Cleave (Great Cleave with a 5' step between cleaves), though you don't need to move. I think you're best off not using the feat. I can't think of how to fix it, and I think Cleave works just find for sort of simulating this.</p><p></p><p>I have not closely examined the bardic feats.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bront, post: 2324232, member: 19696"] My suggestion with Slice Through and Improved slice through Get rid of Improved Slice Through, and Slice through to: SLICE THROUGH [GENERAL] You may strike your opponent when tumbling through them. Prerequisites: Spring Attack, 5 Ranks Tumble, BAB +6 Benefit: As a move action you can make a normal melee attack against your opponent while tumbling through his square if you succeed your tumble check. The attack happens while in the opponent's square(s), so does not gain any benifits from flanking. You must tumble in a straight line, and be able to make it through to the other side of the opponent as if tumbling normaly (one-half speed). All other rules for tumbling through an opponent's square apply. Normal: Tumble at one-half speed through an area occupied by an enemy (over, under, or around the opponent) as part of normal movement, provoking no attacks of opportunity while doing so. Failure means you stop before entering the enemy-occupied area and provoke an attack of opportunity from that enemy. This gives the feat a better mechanical feal, and makes it fairly clear what is happening. Not sure how balanced it is, so figured I'd throw it out there. Otherwise, as the feat is currently written, I'd rather simply tumble through my opponent as a move action (which does not provoke an AoO), and attack him afterwards, even if it fails. I think Stabing Through honestly sounds like Grand Cleave (Great Cleave with a 5' step between cleaves), though you don't need to move. I think you're best off not using the feat. I can't think of how to fix it, and I think Cleave works just find for sort of simulating this. I have not closely examined the bardic feats. [/QUOTE]
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