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<blockquote data-quote="ezo" data-source="post: 9266505" data-attributes="member: 7037866"><p>You're most welcome!</p><p></p><p>The first version was a lot of fun because it gave us a lot of options for each round. Fortunately, the synergies were also a bit limited due to things like action enconmy. In the fighter/rogue example (one of the PCs in that game), he wanted to two-weapon fight a lot, but the cost of the bonus action competed with his use of cunning action, which also competed with second wind, etc.</p><p></p><p>We did the first version because it was our first run with 5E because we only had a few players, but wanted to have more of the classes/ roles covered.</p><p></p><p>The second option was derived by recognizing you can make an "Eldritch Knight" by playing a Fighter who takes Wizard as a subclass. This allows for all sort of combinations, of course, and appealed also when a player had a PC but didn't "feel" any of the offered subclasses really worked for them.</p><p></p><p>The full version is a bit more complex. In summary, you get one "subclass feature" award per tier. Here is ahow a Fighter subclass Cleric would play out. Because Fighters have 5 subclass award levels instead of the normal 4, as DM you would have to decide for the last two award if you wanted to use levels 10 and 15, 10 and 18, or 15 and 18. Technically, 15 would be tier 3 and 18 would be tier 4. 10th level is tier 2, which was already awarded at 7th level...</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]346208[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>I forgot to clarify earlier:</p><p></p><p>First subclass award: gain level 1 of a second class.</p><p>Second subclass award: gain levels 2 and 3 features.</p><p>Third subclass award: gain level 4 and 5 features.</p><p>Last subclass award: gain levels 6 and 7 features.</p><p></p><p>This way casters as subclass will get up to 4th level spells, akin to what Eldritch Knights and Arcane Tricksters.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and <em>obviously</em>, your class as subclass class does not gain a subclass itself. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ezo, post: 9266505, member: 7037866"] You're most welcome! The first version was a lot of fun because it gave us a lot of options for each round. Fortunately, the synergies were also a bit limited due to things like action enconmy. In the fighter/rogue example (one of the PCs in that game), he wanted to two-weapon fight a lot, but the cost of the bonus action competed with his use of cunning action, which also competed with second wind, etc. We did the first version because it was our first run with 5E because we only had a few players, but wanted to have more of the classes/ roles covered. The second option was derived by recognizing you can make an "Eldritch Knight" by playing a Fighter who takes Wizard as a subclass. This allows for all sort of combinations, of course, and appealed also when a player had a PC but didn't "feel" any of the offered subclasses really worked for them. The full version is a bit more complex. In summary, you get one "subclass feature" award per tier. Here is ahow a Fighter subclass Cleric would play out. Because Fighters have 5 subclass award levels instead of the normal 4, as DM you would have to decide for the last two award if you wanted to use levels 10 and 15, 10 and 18, or 15 and 18. Technically, 15 would be tier 3 and 18 would be tier 4. 10th level is tier 2, which was already awarded at 7th level... [ATTACH type="full" width="405px" alt="1708045650119.png"]346208[/ATTACH] I forgot to clarify earlier: First subclass award: gain level 1 of a second class. Second subclass award: gain levels 2 and 3 features. Third subclass award: gain level 4 and 5 features. Last subclass award: gain levels 6 and 7 features. This way casters as subclass will get up to 4th level spells, akin to what Eldritch Knights and Arcane Tricksters. Oh, and [I]obviously[/I], your class as subclass class does not gain a subclass itself. ;) [/QUOTE]
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