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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 9131012" data-attributes="member: 6684958"><p>Sounds a bit boring. Unless you add some real blasting power....but then you unbalance the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I really don't like summoning diviners. I do like the idea that wizards summon things for knowledge....but I really love diviners that just use magic to see and figure out things. </p><p></p><p>I like illusions being "false" things and enchantment being more mental effects. But I think bard magic should be much different.</p><p></p><p>But shadows are "only" evil? I do like the 'cold neutral shadow' magic...not every shadow is ultimate evil. Necromancy is fine...but is everyone of them a master of shadows? And to sure does not fit with the "sneaky" part of shadow magic. Most necromancers don't "sulk in the shadows", they are more brutal and open. And the idea of a sly wizard using shadows to hide is also a master of undeath just does not fit.</p><p></p><p>No, not even close. They need to be broken up a lot more. I would not be satisfied. I miss the diviner investigator and the sneaky shadow wizard.</p><p></p><p>And mechanics are the worst.....too many examples are just like "oh you can cast a darkness spell once a day" and "oh you get a plus one to darkness spells" that really does not have much game effect and use.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 9131012, member: 6684958"] Sounds a bit boring. Unless you add some real blasting power....but then you unbalance the game. I really don't like summoning diviners. I do like the idea that wizards summon things for knowledge....but I really love diviners that just use magic to see and figure out things. I like illusions being "false" things and enchantment being more mental effects. But I think bard magic should be much different. But shadows are "only" evil? I do like the 'cold neutral shadow' magic...not every shadow is ultimate evil. Necromancy is fine...but is everyone of them a master of shadows? And to sure does not fit with the "sneaky" part of shadow magic. Most necromancers don't "sulk in the shadows", they are more brutal and open. And the idea of a sly wizard using shadows to hide is also a master of undeath just does not fit. No, not even close. They need to be broken up a lot more. I would not be satisfied. I miss the diviner investigator and the sneaky shadow wizard. And mechanics are the worst.....too many examples are just like "oh you can cast a darkness spell once a day" and "oh you get a plus one to darkness spells" that really does not have much game effect and use. [/QUOTE]
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