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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9244676" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah pretty much all REEs (Realms ending events) involve the gods being absolute divots or just totally unhelpful, because they kind of necessarily have to, because if the gods weren't being divots, they might have raised a finger to help, or indeed, just stopped things before they got bad. It's like, the bad gods are directly involved, but the good ones? Too busy doing their best impression of Hedonismbot from Futurama to do a damn thing.</p><p></p><p>Nah.</p><p></p><p>The gods in the FR are monstrous blackmailing jerks. And that's the good guys. Being "Faithless" means you actually have a spine and moral compass, unlike anyone who is following the gods for the sake of the afterlife. Or the gods themselves, who are almost entirely moral-compass-free.</p><p></p><p>Big sign: "WELCOME TO THE FORGOTTEN REALMS"</p><p></p><p>Seriously though this is how the FR has been operating for the last 40 years.</p><p></p><p>The god are horrible twerps who play favourites and and absolutely never help when they're actually needed, and in fact precipitate or even <em>intentionally</em> cause half the crises that mortals are supposed to be dealing with, and from like, 1993 to about 2023, so the vast majority of the time the FR existed, we also had the Wall of the Faithless* which is one of the most undeniably ultra-Evil (very much with a capital E) things ever devised in fantasy, and yet all the gods, including the Good and Neutral ones, were supposedly completely on-board with. The whole thing is because we've had a car crash between Ed Greenwood's ideas, which are basically him wanting Greek mythology-style gods who people were supposed to inexplicably like, rather than have contempt for**, later author ideas (and not much later either), who were unable to conceive of non-coercive/punishment-based religions having worshippers, so added in a specific punishment, and more recent retcons to try and make the gods more distant and vague because the former two approached seemed (and were!) deeply messed-up.</p><p></p><p>* = Has that even been confirmed as going away or have WotC just so profoundly gone silent about it that we assume it's gone?</p><p>** = The vibe I get from Greenwood's own writings is that people sort of see the gods as like, crazy/eccentric uncles and aunts who are "okay really", and I think that's because how he sees them, but it's implausible that the people of the FR would see them that way based on their actual activities, priesthoods, and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9244676, member: 18"] Yeah pretty much all REEs (Realms ending events) involve the gods being absolute divots or just totally unhelpful, because they kind of necessarily have to, because if the gods weren't being divots, they might have raised a finger to help, or indeed, just stopped things before they got bad. It's like, the bad gods are directly involved, but the good ones? Too busy doing their best impression of Hedonismbot from Futurama to do a damn thing. Nah. The gods in the FR are monstrous blackmailing jerks. And that's the good guys. Being "Faithless" means you actually have a spine and moral compass, unlike anyone who is following the gods for the sake of the afterlife. Or the gods themselves, who are almost entirely moral-compass-free. Big sign: "WELCOME TO THE FORGOTTEN REALMS" Seriously though this is how the FR has been operating for the last 40 years. The god are horrible twerps who play favourites and and absolutely never help when they're actually needed, and in fact precipitate or even [I]intentionally[/I] cause half the crises that mortals are supposed to be dealing with, and from like, 1993 to about 2023, so the vast majority of the time the FR existed, we also had the Wall of the Faithless* which is one of the most undeniably ultra-Evil (very much with a capital E) things ever devised in fantasy, and yet all the gods, including the Good and Neutral ones, were supposedly completely on-board with. The whole thing is because we've had a car crash between Ed Greenwood's ideas, which are basically him wanting Greek mythology-style gods who people were supposed to inexplicably like, rather than have contempt for**, later author ideas (and not much later either), who were unable to conceive of non-coercive/punishment-based religions having worshippers, so added in a specific punishment, and more recent retcons to try and make the gods more distant and vague because the former two approached seemed (and were!) deeply messed-up. * = Has that even been confirmed as going away or have WotC just so profoundly gone silent about it that we assume it's gone? ** = The vibe I get from Greenwood's own writings is that people sort of see the gods as like, crazy/eccentric uncles and aunts who are "okay really", and I think that's because how he sees them, but it's implausible that the people of the FR would see them that way based on their actual activities, priesthoods, and so on. [/QUOTE]
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