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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 9244192" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>What 5e is on is a "subclasses" kick - of which there are over a hundred choices. My normal description of 5e is that it will do 70% of what 3.5 does for 30% of the effort - but in the cases of classes if and when a subclass does the job it does it for 10% of the effort of a new class.</p><p></p><p>You mean as distinct from (a) their thematic cousins in the Rune Knights and (b) as distinct from weird paladins and (c) as distinct from Artificers? Because I never really got the runepriest's "thing" other than as mechanics</p><p></p><p>This is one although oddly enough the current Beastmaster Ranger comes fairly close thematically</p><p></p><p>There needs to be a monk subclass; there's already a paladin one.</p><p></p><p>Assuming you mean the Pathfinder Oracle that's just a spontaneous (no longer needed) divine caster picking their spells off the cleric list and with medium armour and shield proficiency and a couple of mysteries. There's no real gap that needs covering here with the 5e casting rules.</p><p></p><p>Aberrant Mind Sorcerer</p><p></p><p>They're an arcane/divine mix casting class that plucks new spells that are outside their normal range. Armour but no shields and a knowledge focus. Isn't this pretty much just a lore bard?</p><p></p><p>Divine Soul Sorcerer</p><p></p><p>Do you really want a list of 5e gishes? <em>Seriously? </em>Off the top of my head there's the Eldritch Knight fighter, the Bladesinger wizard, the Valour and Swords bards, and the Pact of the Blade and Hexblade Warlocks. Also the Battle Smith and Armourer artificers.</p><p></p><p>... OK, you got me. I suppose that some would claim the Purple Dragon Knight and Battlemaster (not that either is fit for purpose).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 9244192, member: 87792"] What 5e is on is a "subclasses" kick - of which there are over a hundred choices. My normal description of 5e is that it will do 70% of what 3.5 does for 30% of the effort - but in the cases of classes if and when a subclass does the job it does it for 10% of the effort of a new class. You mean as distinct from (a) their thematic cousins in the Rune Knights and (b) as distinct from weird paladins and (c) as distinct from Artificers? Because I never really got the runepriest's "thing" other than as mechanics This is one although oddly enough the current Beastmaster Ranger comes fairly close thematically There needs to be a monk subclass; there's already a paladin one. Assuming you mean the Pathfinder Oracle that's just a spontaneous (no longer needed) divine caster picking their spells off the cleric list and with medium armour and shield proficiency and a couple of mysteries. There's no real gap that needs covering here with the 5e casting rules. Aberrant Mind Sorcerer They're an arcane/divine mix casting class that plucks new spells that are outside their normal range. Armour but no shields and a knowledge focus. Isn't this pretty much just a lore bard? Divine Soul Sorcerer Do you really want a list of 5e gishes? [I]Seriously? [/I]Off the top of my head there's the Eldritch Knight fighter, the Bladesinger wizard, the Valour and Swords bards, and the Pact of the Blade and Hexblade Warlocks. Also the Battle Smith and Armourer artificers. ... OK, you got me. I suppose that some would claim the Purple Dragon Knight and Battlemaster (not that either is fit for purpose). [/QUOTE]
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