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I really hope there's someone willing to post about these alternatives, because I'm not all that interested in having to actually talk to strangers on Discord, nor sift through what they're saying in chat to dig out answers.

For reference in future, any thoughts on getting a compendium running independently of WotC in the likely event it is included in the shutdown (The Great Darkening lol)? I have heard it's possible, but no clue how to do it, even if I did have a copy of the data.

I know there's a way to run the compendium locally. I have the files, but lack the know-how. I know there are others here who do know.

No word on whether this includes the Compendium? Or is it just the silverlight stuff?

Mearls may not have "ruined D&D" as the meme goes, since what he's done has clearly been good for the brand, but I used to defend him, at least until the "yelling arms back on" type stuff began to emerge. I've come to recognize, however, that he ruined my D&D. I wish that they'd brought more 4e...

That's what I expected. Yeah, I figured that one out while I was browsing through the rules looking for ways to make it good. ;) Yeah, I mean it works well enough in high heroic to low paragon, but I've never been further than that, either as player or DM, so I can't comment with any veracity...

Good to know! I asked custserv if they could add my CC to my account to auto-renew my manually-granted sub, and they said 'no' and that they hoped any issues would be sorted before I needed to worry about it coming up for renewal.

A relatively fast response; This sounds a lot like "we can't figure it out, so here you go" and I have my doubts that anyone is even working on it, but the gesture certainly is appreciated.

My ticket has been escalated. We'll see.

Now that the login servers are working again, I tried to sub to the old tools, but it times out to a blank screen on all browsers on PC, and gives me a 504 on my phone. Ticket submitted. Will update.

So, I tried to create an account so I could sub on my own, and got the following error: "Whoops! Whoops! A system error is preventing us from doing that. We're sorry for the inconvenience. Try back in a while and we should have everything working again! Or, contact our game support team for...

I'm also getting a login error. I would submit, but I'm not using my own account (one of my players subs on our behalf). I really need to get my own account one of these days...

Also, if you don't want to try something new and strange, like downloading a new piece of software, try IE11. It's what I use for this (and only this). Win + R, type "iexplore.exe" into the box and hit enter.

Yes, I checked to see if it was just you. I'm using IE11. Mine loaded to 97%, then stalled. A few moments later, I got a prompt that Silverlight had an update and did I want said update. I hit 'yes' and nothing happened, but I got the little 'this page is having problems' bar at the bottom, and...

I'd be interested to know, since I'm considering subbing with my own account instead of our group's shared one, just to keep the magic alive.

That would be sad times, indeed.

That's good news! They care just enough to fix it. I have to wonder what it costs them to maintain vs. how many subs they still have...

That'd be nice. At this point I'm betting zero additional time / resources will be devoted to this. I'm honestly surprised they even bothered to make the 4e books digitally available in pdf, after all the talk in the leadup to 5e. Their "big tent" isn't quite big enough.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Anything that happens with the 4e tools at this point could be attributed to either lack of concern, or deliberate disdain. I guess generic incompetence could be at play as well. It is WotC with a digital product, after all.

It's funny, but also technical. They named the URLs for Vecna and Ioun. Vecna for the character builder and Ioun for the compendium. If you look at the sources for the files, that's where they go. Such as, 'http://vecna.wizards.com/blahblahblah' or whatever. It won't be in the URL bar in your...