D&D (2024) Greyhawk Confirmed. Tell Me Why.

EthanSental said:

Not sure who would be the equivalent for GH, but man if WoTC opens it up on dmsguild and an Ed Greenwood type GH writer created new content, I’d be quick to purchase it like I did with Ed’s stuff for forgotten realms.

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Roger Moore, Gary Holian, Sean Reynolds… ? There were a few LG authors I’d grab immediately, such as the Onnwal and Splintered Suns region writers, like Creighton Broadhurst.

AstroCat said:

Your hate is at mach 10 man, why are you even here?

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Hate? I’m laughing at this at this point.

AdmundfortGeographer said:

Roger Moore, Gary Holian, Sean Reynolds… ? There were a few LG authors I’d grab immediately, such as the Onnwal and Splintered Suns region writers, like Creighton Broadburst.

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I wonder if Erik Mona would be interested...

TiQuinn said:

Hate? I’m laughing at this at this point.

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We get it, you don't like the GH setting, it sure seems like you are hating on the setting just for the heck of it. No matter what anyone says you just repeat the same thing regardless, over and over, not even taking into account what is being said when it counters your criticism. That's just trolling at this point... you kinda lose any credibility.

Remathilis said:

I wonder if Erik Mona would be interested...

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I figured he’d be too swamped as Paizo now.

Though I recall hearing the Gary Holian wasn’t too keen on the sorts of ownership terms the DMsGuild published under and was pleased using the existing fan content policy that permits things like Oerth Journal.

EzekielRaiden said:

What makes a warlock pact hostile to S&S thematics or experiences, while a cleric's faith is not hostile to that? (To be clear, pacts and faith are NOT the same, I am vehemently opposed to the notion some have that you can substitute either one for the other.)

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Hell. In most S&S settings magic tends to exact a toll on its users and having to enter into a pact with a demon or some other creature is quite a toll.

MGibster said:

Hell. In most S&S settings magic tends to exact a toll on its users and having to enter into a pact with a demon or some other creature is quite a toll.

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Agreed, Warlock is a great fit for a S&S setting, I for sure never said it wasn't.

Minigiant said:

Manhandled.

I'm more afraid WOTC does nothing and throws new and inexperienced DMs to the wolves unaided....

..Again

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If a new, inexperienced DM decides to run Greyhawk for their first campaign ever, and they have a player who has an obsessive knowledge of the 40 year old setting, and precise requirement for exactly what that DM should have in Greyhawk.... nothing WoTC ever writes could help that DM. IF someone is choosing to use their expertise as a bludgeon, then they are not a good player, let alone for an inexperienced DM.

If your concern is that this green DM is going to start a game, and their inexperienced player is going to say they are a Dragonborn from points to random place on map but the original Greyhawk never mentioned that Dragonborn lived there and the new example setting didn't say Dragonborn lived there.... I assure, that player and DM will not care. The DM will say "cool" and forget to write down the hometown and the Dragonborn player will forget which one he picked because the paper got lost and they will just make up a new one.

And those are frankly the only two flavors of a scenario I can imagine where any "wolves" would be involved. Either experienced players bludgeoning their DM with "Well, back in Dragon Magazine #3 it said...." or people with no knowledge of the setting, and hence no preconceptions of the setting that need to be explained away.

It would be more effective to, instead of trying to cover every possible change in Greyhawk over the last 40 years, WoTC made a paragraph in the PHB telling old players with expert knowledge in settings to not be wolves and seek to tear apart DMs.

Honestly Greyhawk doesn't actually need too many updates. Like assuming we get the map focused on the Flanaess, I can't think of too many things there that need updating.

AdmundfortGeographer said:

Just wanted to chime in, WGR7 Ivid the Undying is among Carl Sargent’s top tier work. It is maybe the best source for material in the Great Kingdom.

I referenced it over and over when drawing my maps for the region. I ended up scouring the internet archive for WotC’s old free .rtf of it so I could reformat it into an epub file for easy reading on my ebook reader. (The .pdf of it is painful reading on a tablet)

Just love Ivid the Undying and it is a sad thing it never got to be published with art.

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Yep, loved it at well. Amazing description of a truly horrific tyrannical state in literal terminal decline. it's really baffling why it never was published when it was basically completed.