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Geek Confessional Thread 2024

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
The only anime I can think of that hooked me in the first episode was Castlevania.
I swear, I'm not trying to knock anyone by harping on this, but Netflix's Castlevania is not an anime in any sense. It was written by Warren Ellis, directed by Sam Deats (and a few other people, none of whom are Japanese), and animated by South Korean studios Mua Film and Tiger Animation. It's no more "anime" than The Simpsons is.
 

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Reynard

Legend
Supporter
I swear, I'm not trying to knock anyone by harping on this, but Netflix's Castlevania is not an anime in any sense. It was written by Warren Ellis, directed by Sam Deats (and a few other people, none of whom are Japanese), and animated by South Korean studios Mua Film and Tiger Animation. It's no more "anime" than The Simpsons is.
That's probably why I like it so much. I can't really get into actual
Japanese anime because there are some storytelling tropes and narrative concepts that I never quite get, usually making the experience unsatisfying in some way or another.

That said, anime as a broad term for that style of animation is a ship that has sailed. Good luck changing it.
 

payn

He'll flip ya...Flip ya for real...
That's probably why I like it so much. I can't really get into actual
Japanese anime because there are some storytelling tropes and narrative concepts that I never quite get, usually making the experience unsatisfying in some way or another.

That said, anime as a broad term for that style of animation is a ship that has sailed. Good luck changing it.
Unfortunately yeah folks just stopped calling all animation cartoons.
 

Unfortunately yeah folks just stopped calling all animation cartoons.
There's been a huge amount of linguistic drift around that word over the centuries. "Cartoon" has been around since 1670, when all it referred to was an artist's preliminary sketch on pasteboard or other heavy paper (said paper being "carton" in Italian and French). It wasn't until 1843 that the word came to refer to drawings in newspapers and magazines, and even then they were mostly used to parody or support political issues and personalities. Purely comedic cartoons came later, with "comic" eventually being used with many types of static cartooning, even those that aren't funny at all like crime, horror and superhero comic books and strips.

"Animated cartoons" weren't a thing until 1911 (when Windsor McKay's static cartoons were first animated), and it took decades before the "animated" preface faded away in common usage. There were also competing terms like cel animation, although they were too technical to win the popularity cotest that evolving language generally is. These days "cartoon" generally implies animated media but there are still cases (the political cartoon form, for example) where "comic" hasn't taken over when referring to static cartoon imagery. "Toon" is a further extension of the drift, and owes part of its popularity to Loony Tunes' continuing popularity reinforcing the natural tendency toward shortening words over time.

Also worth noting that not all animation involves actual cartooning. For ex, stop motion animation and its subcategory claymation are rarely called cartoons, and arguably shouldn't be.

Yes, I did do several papers on this stuff in my long-ago college days. :)
 

payn

He'll flip ya...Flip ya for real...
There's been a huge amount of linguistic drift around that word over the centuries. "Cartoon" has been around since 1670, when all it referred to was an artist's preliminary sketch on pasteboard or other heavy paper (said paper being "carton" in Italian and French). It wasn't until 1843 that the word came to refer to drawings in newspapers and magazines, and even then they were mostly used to parody or support political issues and personalities. Purely comedic cartoons came later, with "comic" eventually being used with many types of static cartooning, even those that aren't funny at all like crime, horror and superhero comic books and strips.

"Animated cartoons" weren't a thing until 1911 (when Windsor McKay's static cartoons were first animated), and it took decades before the "animated" preface faded away in common usage. There were also competing terms like cel animation, although they were too technical to win the popularity cotest that evolving language generally is. These days "cartoon" generally implies animated media but there are still cases (the political cartoon form, for example) where "comic" hasn't taken over when referring to static cartoon imagery. "Toon" is a further extension of the drift, and owes part of its popularity to Loony Tunes' continuing popularity reinforcing the natural tendency toward shortening words over time.

Also worth noting that not all animation involves actual cartooning. For ex, stop motion animation and its subcategory claymation are rarely called cartoons, and arguably shouldn't be.

Yes, I did do several papers on this stuff in my long-ago college days. :)
Nobody asked why. ;)
 


payn

He'll flip ya...Flip ya for real...
This is as close to using my degree I ever get these days. :)
I couldnt help it. Been watching Archer lately. I just had H. Jon Benjamin's voice in my head. Now I feel like a 10am bourbon is in order.
archer GIF
 

JediSoth

Voice Over Artist & Author
I found Dune to be a ponderous slog to read and have seen two adaptations of it (David Lynch's and the SyFy Channel one) and neither blew me away. I'm not sorry I saw them, I just don't think it's the greatest thing ever.

Likewise, as much affection as I hold for Lord of the Rings, I'd rather watch the movies again than read the books again. Especially the first half of Fellowship.

I don't particularly care for Batman, though I did really enjoy the Tim Burton/Michael Keaton movies.

I have only seen one episode of The Big Bang Theory and no more than a handful of Community (and possibly only one complete episode).

I LOVE Star Wars and Star Trek and don't care which is better or more realistic, but recognize they both have generated some garbage and will unashamedly pluck from canon like it's a salad bar when I run RPGs. Also, I LOATHE what JJ Abrams did to both universes and hope he never gets his hack mitts on a franchise I like again.

I generally hate talking about pop culture topics on the Internet, because I don't easily tolerate randos popping into my feeds telling me about how my opinions are wrong.
 

Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
Every time I try to get into anime, I find the conventions (especially characters wildly overemoting and the intense sexism, even in shows meant for kids) to be off-putting and find some of the big favorites to be kind of boring.

The anime die hards screaming at me about it -- "IT'S NOT A SINGLE GENRE, YOU MORON," "HOW DARE YOU SAY IT'S TOO SLOW FOR YOU," "THEY DON'T ALL OVER-EMOTE" -- strangely doesn't make me enjoy anime any more as a result. (I would never say anime fans are wrong for liking anime, but apparently me not enjoying it is super-offensive to a lot of fans.)

I do like Studio Ghibli stuff and the old anime stuff that was available in parts of the US in the 1970s. But when my kids watch modern popular stuff, it does zero for me. (I don't dissuade my kids from watching Spy x Family or My Hero Academia, of course, but I don't ever have the desire to sit and watch with them.)
 


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